Publishing Industry Publishing Industry    FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Clients who insist on MSWord.... Goto page 1, 2  Next          Publishing Industry Forum Index -> Publishing Industry View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Jim Webb Guest Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 5:54 pm    Post subject: Clients who insist on MSWord.... This has come up too many times for me to ignore. I create great stationery layouts in Indesign (CS2 on Macintosh), get everything printed, then the client turns around and wants the letterhead (or a fax page, or media release page) in MSWord so they can type in stuff and PDF it for email. Can MSWord accept vector art (seems to look choppy)? In Illustrator's 'export for MSWord' it saves PNG files -- then the client complains the logo/text is blurry. Do I have to save the letterhead artwork as hi-rez JPG? I may be an expert in REAL layout programs, but lost when some secretary wants a MSWord template. I can't expect clients to change their PC programs, so I have to come up with a workaround. Maybe one of you have more experience with MSWord than I do... Jim Webb Sudbury Ontario Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor SpaceGirl Guest Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 5:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Clients who insist on MSWord.... On May 30, 2:54 pm, Jim Webb <jayaruuNOS...@gmail.net> wrote: Quote: This has come up too many times for me to ignore. I create great stationery layouts in Indesign (CS2 on Macintosh), get everything printed, then the client turns around and wants the letterhead (or a fax page, or media release page) in MSWord so they can type in stuff and PDF it for email. Can MSWord accept vector art (seems to look choppy)? In Illustrator's 'export for MSWord' it saves PNG files -- then the client complains the logo/text is blurry. Do I have to save the letterhead artwork as hi-rez JPG? I may be an expert in REAL layout programs, but lost when some secretary wants a MSWord template. I can't expect clients to change their PC programs, so I have to come up with a workaround. Maybe one of you have more experience with MSWord than I do... Word prefers WMF files; export all Illustrator art as WMF and it'll remain vector when imported into Word, and print at printer resolution. This is what we do. Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Bob Levine Guest Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 6:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Clients who insist on MSWord.... Jim Webb wrote: Quote: This has come up too many times for me to ignore. I create great stationery layouts in Indesign (CS2 on Macintosh), get everything printed, then the client turns around and wants the letterhead (or a fax page, or media release page) in MSWord so they can type in stuff and PDF it for email. Can MSWord accept vector art (seems to look choppy)? In Illustrator's 'export for MSWord' it saves PNG files -- then the client complains the logo/text is blurry. Do I have to save the letterhead artwork as hi-rez JPG? I've always used JPG with Word for this type of thing. Export your InDesign work as PDF, open in Photoshop and rasterize there. ID CS2 and earlier will only export to JPG as 72 ppi. In CS3 you can adjust the resolution and skip the PDF export. HTH, Bob www.theindesignguy.com Quote: I may be an expert in REAL layout programs, but lost when some secretary wants a MSWord template. I can't expect clients to change their PC programs, so I have to come up with a workaround. Maybe one of you have more experience with MSWord than I do... Jim Webb Sudbury Ontario Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Elmo P. Shagnasty Guest Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 6:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Clients who insist on MSWord.... In article <135r0gp519jms61@corp.supernews.com>, Jim Webb <jayaruuNOSPAM@gmail.net> wrote: Quote: This has come up too many times for me to ignore. I create great stationery layouts in Indesign (CS2 on Macintosh), get everything printed, then the client turns around and wants the letterhead (or a fax page, or media release page) in MSWord so they can type in stuff and PDF it for email. Can MSWord accept vector art (seems to look choppy)? In Illustrator's 'export for MSWord' it saves PNG files -- then the client complains the logo/text is blurry. Do I have to save the letterhead artwork as hi-rez JPG? EPS. Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor amgine Guest Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 6:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Clients who insist on MSWord.... on 30/5/07 3:04 pm, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote: Quote: In article <135r0gp519jms61@corp.supernews.com>, Jim Webb <jayaruuNOSPAM@gmail.net> wrote: This has come up too many times for me to ignore. I create great stationery layouts in Indesign (CS2 on Macintosh), get everything printed, then the client turns around and wants the letterhead (or a fax page, or media release page) in MSWord so they can type in stuff and PDF it for email. Can MSWord accept vector art (seems to look choppy)? In Illustrator's 'export for MSWord' it saves PNG files -- then the client complains the logo/text is blurry. Do I have to save the letterhead artwork as hi-rez JPG? EPS. I've found in the past that eps isn't something a client can handle. Some people can't print eps, and some eps files won't preview on their monitors. Clients seem to be able to handle jpg files much better. So a high res jpg would be the thing. I'd place it into a word template for them and lock it [if that's possible in word], so they're not tempted to mess with the aspect ratio. Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor delooch Guest Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 8:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Clients who insist on MSWord.... What I do, and it seems to work without fail- i design my page in illustrator, set a bounding box to 8.5x11, then export the whole page as a wmf or png - then in word, set this image as a background, adjust your margins, and distribute as a template.. it always prints razor sharp. I just got turned on to .png files not long ago- if you have clients that require logos or graphics with transparent backgrounds, and they are using 'dummy' apps like MS office, etc.. export your artwork as .png- you can get a high res file in any app with the transparent bg. And, they seem to be handled much better then eps files. -j Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor William F. Adams Guest Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 8:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Clients who insist on MSWord.... On May 30, 9:54 am, Jim Webb <jayaruuNOS...@gmail.net> wrote: Quote: This has come up too many times for me to ignore. I create great stationery layouts in Indesign (CS2 on Macintosh), get everything printed, then the client turns around and wants the letterhead (or a fax page, or media release page) in MSWord so they can type in stuff and PDF it for email. Can MSWord accept vector art (seems to look choppy)? In Illustrator's 'export for MSWord' it saves PNG files -- then the client complains the logo/text is blurry. Do I have to save the letterhead artwork as hi-rez JPG? I may be an expert in REAL layout programs, but lost when some secretary wants a MSWord template. I can't expect clients to change their PC programs, so I have to come up with a workaround. Maybe one of you have more experience with MSWord than I do... What I've done for this sort of thing is make a custom font which will set the logo, breaking it down into multiple keystrokes to accommodate colour assignment or complex elements. Provides total control and one can even set embedding bits (and File | Save options for .doc files) so that the font is embedded, allowing recipients who don't have the font installed to print / preview but not edit the file. Just make and provide a .dot document template w/ the logotype set in the header / footer as need be, w/ appropriate settings. Optional improvement: Create a button bar of WordBASIC macros which apply styles &c. William Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor delooch Guest Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 8:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Clients who insist on MSWord.... What I do, and it seems to work without fail- i design my page in illustrator, set a bounding box to 8.5x11, then export the whole page as a wmf or png - then in word, set this image as a background, adjust your margins, and distribute as a template.. it always prints razor sharp. I just got turned on to .png files not long ago- if you have clients that require logos or graphics with transparent backgrounds, and they are using 'dummy' apps like MS office, etc.. export your artwork as .png- you can get a high res file in any app with the transparent bg. And, they seem to be handled much better then eps files. -j Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor inez Guest Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 9:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Clients who insist on MSWord.... SpaceGirl wrote: Quote: On May 30, 2:54 pm, Jim Webb <jayaruuNOS...@gmail.net> wrote: This has come up too many times for me to ignore. I create great stationery layouts in Indesign (CS2 on Macintosh), get everything printed, then the client turns around and wants the letterhead (or a fax page, or media release page) in MSWord so they can type in stuff and PDF it for email. Can MSWord accept vector art (seems to look choppy)? In Illustrator's 'export for MSWord' it saves PNG files -- then the client complains the logo/text is blurry. Do I have to save the letterhead artwork as hi-rez JPG? I may be an expert in REAL layout programs, but lost when some secretary wants a MSWord template. I can't expect clients to change their PC programs, so I have to come up with a workaround. Maybe one of you have more experience with MSWord than I do... Word prefers WMF files; export all Illustrator art as WMF and it'll remain vector when imported into Word, and print at printer resolution. This is what we do. Somewhere someone told me that Word will take EPS (with PC preview), is that correct? Also, wouldn't it take EMF; and, doesn't EMF allow for curves while WMF is made up entirely of tiny straight lines? Just curious, inez Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor amgine Guest Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 9:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Clients who insist on MSWord.... on 30/5/07 6:10 pm, inez wrote: Quote: SpaceGirl wrote: On May 30, 2:54 pm, Jim Webb <jayaruuNOS...@gmail.net> wrote: This has come up too many times for me to ignore. I create great stationery layouts in Indesign (CS2 on Macintosh), get everything printed, then the client turns around and wants the letterhead (or a fax page, or media release page) in MSWord so they can type in stuff and PDF it for email. Can MSWord accept vector art (seems to look choppy)? In Illustrator's 'export for MSWord' it saves PNG files -- then the client complains the logo/text is blurry. Do I have to save the letterhead artwork as hi-rez JPG? I may be an expert in REAL layout programs, but lost when some secretary wants a MSWord template. I can't expect clients to change their PC programs, so I have to come up with a workaround. Maybe one of you have more experience with MSWord than I do... Word prefers WMF files; export all Illustrator art as WMF and it'll remain vector when imported into Word, and print at printer resolution. This is what we do. Somewhere someone told me that Word will take EPS (with PC preview), is that correct? Also, wouldn't it take EMF; and, doesn't EMF allow for curves while WMF is made up entirely of tiny straight lines? Just curious, inez I've previously had trouble with getting eps format to either print or preview on work pcs. Actually I have trouble printing eps files on my inkjets from my mac too - they can go very rough around the edges. I suppose this stems from not having a PS printer? Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor delooch Guest Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 9:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Clients who insist on MSWord.... On May 30, 10:10 am, inez <nezm...@or.fact> wrote: Quote: SpaceGirl wrote: On May 30, 2:54 pm, Jim Webb <jayaruuNOS...@gmail.net> wrote: This has come up too many times for me to ignore. I create great stationery layouts in Indesign (CS2 on Macintosh), get everything printed, then the client turns around and wants the letterhead (or a fax page, or media release page) in MSWord so they can type in stuff and PDF it for email. Can MSWord accept vector art (seems to look choppy)? In Illustrator's 'export for MSWord' it saves PNG files -- then the client complains the logo/text is blurry. Do I have to save the letterhead artwork as hi-rez JPG? I may be an expert in REAL layout programs, but lost when some secretary wants a MSWord template. I can't expect clients to change their PC programs, so I have to come up with a workaround. Maybe one of you have more experience with MSWord than I do... Word prefers WMF files; export all Illustrator art as WMF and it'll remain vector when imported into Word, and print at printer resolution. This is what we do. Somewhere someone told me that Word will take EPS (with PC preview), is that correct? Also, wouldn't it take EMF; and, doesn't EMF allow for curves while WMF is made up entirely of tiny straight lines? Just curious, inez word will import eps files, however it doesnt seem to be flawless. i do have the occasional .eps file that dosent import, or is too large. emf, wmf, and png files are fairly small in size compared to .eps. I always prefer eps files however i have a fleet of knuckleheads using apps like word, wordperfect, and **gasp** THE PRINT SHOP. I seem to have better luck with my clients distributing these file formats.- I realize i am not going to get them to change their design app, so might as well give them something that is easily digested. Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Elmo P. Shagnasty Guest Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 10:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Clients who insist on MSWord.... In article <f3kba6$kin$1@aioe.org>, inez <nezmyth@or.fact> wrote: Quote: Word prefers WMF files; export all Illustrator art as WMF and it'll remain vector when imported into Word, and print at printer resolution. This is what we do. Somewhere someone told me that Word will take EPS (with PC preview), is that correct? works fine. Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor inez Guest Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 10:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Clients who insist on MSWord.... amgine wrote: Quote: Somewhere someone told me that Word will take EPS (with PC preview), is that correct? Also, wouldn't it take EMF; and, doesn't EMF allow for curves while WMF is made up entirely of tiny straight lines? Just curious, inez I've previously had trouble with getting eps format to either print or preview on work pcs. Actually I have trouble printing eps files on my inkjets from my mac too - they can go very rough around the edges. I suppose this stems from not having a PS printer? I imagine the preview issue is a matter how the preview was saved in the EPS. For non postscript inkjet printers the workaround is to PDF the doc and then print. Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Peggy Guest Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 11:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Clients who insist on MSWord.... "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message news:elmop-ECCE08.14073230052007@nntp1.usenetserver.com... Quote: In article <f3kba6$kin$1@aioe.org>, inez <nezmyth@or.fact> wrote: Word prefers WMF files; export all Illustrator art as WMF and it'll remain vector when imported into Word, and print at printer resolution. This is what we do. Somewhere someone told me that Word will take EPS (with PC preview), is that correct? works fine. IME, it only works fine for clients with postscript printers, of which I have precisely none. They all have PCL printers. WMF is the format of choice for office clients. Peggy Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor amgine Guest Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 12:04 am    Post subject: Re: Clients who insist on MSWord.... on 30/5/07 9:26 pm, Neil Gould wrote: Quote: Recently, amgine <nztvar@yahoo.co.uk> posted: on 30/5/07 6:10 pm, inez wrote: SpaceGirl wrote: On May 30, 2:54 pm, Jim Webb <jayaruuNOS...@gmail.net> wrote: This has come up too many times for me to ignore. I create great stationery layouts in Indesign (CS2 on Macintosh), get everything printed, then the client turns around and wants the letterhead (or a fax page, or media release page) in MSWord so they can type in stuff and PDF it for email. Can MSWord accept vector art (seems to look choppy)? In Illustrator's 'export for MSWord' it saves PNG files -- then the client complains the logo/text is blurry. Do I have to save the letterhead artwork as hi-rez JPG? I may be an expert in REAL layout programs, but lost when some secretary wants a MSWord template. I can't expect clients to change their PC programs, so I have to come up with a workaround. Maybe one of you have more experience with MSWord than I do... Word prefers WMF files; export all Illustrator art as WMF and it'll remain vector when imported into Word, and print at printer resolution. This is what we do. Somewhere someone told me that Word will take EPS (with PC preview), is that correct? Also, wouldn't it take EMF; and, doesn't EMF allow for curves while WMF is made up entirely of tiny straight lines? Actually, EPS output is made up "entirely of tiny straight lines" as well. Though the original artwork is created using Beziér curves capable of smooth interpretation at any resolution, PostScript ultimately converts those curves to vectors (i.e. "little straight lines") that the "flatness" setting in Illustrator controls. While WMF is often more coarse, anyone printing to an inkjet from MS-Word is not likely to suffer from this. I've previously had trouble with getting eps format to either print or preview on work pcs. Actually I have trouble printing eps files on my inkjets from my mac too - they can go very rough around the edges. I suppose this stems from not having a PS printer? Since 'EPS' is short for "Encapsulated PostScript", to get high resolution output, you need a PostScript interpreter. Without one in the printer or some intermediate applet, the low resolution preview is often substituted while printing. Or worse. Yes, this has happened. The people I work with don't understand the importance of PS printing, and I've had this issue for some years now, off and on. My problem is that I'm too dim to be able to explain to even dimmer* people why I need postscript, I just know that I need it. Quote: To the OP: use WMF. It is the compatible with the most versions of MS-Word. 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