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Mike Koewler
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 Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:01 am Post subject: For printers in Ohio |
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I got this today, just in case anyone is interested:
State Printing accepting bids online
Columbus — To increase efficiency, printers interested in conducting
business with the State of Ohio can bid on projects online now.
“Not only will the electronic process save the state time and money, we
fully expect to see the number of bids – and therefore competition –
increase under the new system,” said Joe Tucker, administrator of the
Office of State Printing and Mail Services.
To submit bids electronically, printers log onto the commercial
procurement section of the Web site of the Office of State Printing,
http://gsdprint.das.ohio.gov/procure/index.html. The benefits of the new
process include:
· Making bidding on projects easier for printers, which should increase
printer participation and competition, resulting in lower bids, saving
tax dollars.
· Streamlining the procurement process.
· Providing printers electronic access to historical bid information to
assist in bidding on reoccurring projects. Printers previously had to
visit the Office of State Printing in person to review previous bids.
Previously, potential bidders had to print the bid document off the
Internet, complete the information in the bid document and return the
sealed document by mail or in person to the Office of State Printing,
which is located at 4200 Surface Road, Columbus. A representative from
the Office of the Auditor of State had to be present at the Office of
State Printing to open and certify the bids. The new process allows the
representative of the Auditor of State to certify the bids
electronically, which will occur Wednesday for the first time.
The Office of State Printing oversaw the procurement of 2,672 printing
projects through competitively bid term contracts and one-time purchases
during fiscal year 2006, totaling more than $29 million.
The Office of State Printing is part of the Ohio Department of
Administrative Services, which, under the leadership of Hugh Quill,
provides central services to state agencies.
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RH
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| Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 5:42 pm Post subject: Re: For printers in Ohio |
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"Mike Koewler" <wordwiz@fuse.net> wrote in message
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Or maybe close by:
I got this today, just in case anyone is interested:
State Printing accepting bids online
Mike
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A bit of off topic but, just how competive are quotes/pricing given to
government organisations compared to commerical organisations?
Its my thought that goverments usually pay well over the odds for
everything, and have heard stories of such in the past. just wondering if
printing is the same as stationery as other goods and services.
If Government empoyed ruthless hard buyers like the supermarkets do would
they get a much better deal on print contracts |
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Lee Blevins
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:52 am Post subject: Re: For printers in Ohio |
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RH <rh@no-spicedham.exelsys.com> wrote:
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"Mike Koewler" <wordwiz@fuse.net> wrote in message
news:94881$46648b93$42a1f80a$30810@FUSE.NET...
Or maybe close by:
I got this today, just in case anyone is interested:
State Printing accepting bids online
Mike
A bit of off topic but, just how competive are quotes/pricing given to
government organisations compared to commerical organisations?
Its my thought that goverments usually pay well over the odds for
everything, and have heard stories of such in the past. just wondering if
printing is the same as stationery as other goods and services.
If Government empoyed ruthless hard buyers like the supermarkets do would
they get a much better deal on print contracts
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I don't even bother quoting on state work anymore here.
The biggest problem, and I do understand why they do it, is they are too
specific in their specifications.
They'll insist on a paper because that's the paper that was used before
even though you can give them a better paper at a lower cost. Your
vendors don't have the paper they spec and you have to go searching for
a vendor that has it so I just toss the quote.
They need more educated buyers. That way they'll get a better deal. Not
just blind quoting and no chances for re-quoting.
I've been told we lost jobs over 10 dollars and to an out of state
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Allen Wessels
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:39 am Post subject: Re: For printers in Ohio |
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In article <1hz8x90.a8uj0i1pvidlcN%leeb@digitalgraphics.net>,
leeb@digitalgraphics.net (Lee Blevins) wrote:
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I don't even bother quoting on state work anymore here.
The biggest problem, and I do understand why they do it, is they are too
specific in their specifications.
They'll insist on a paper because that's the paper that was used before
even though you can give them a better paper at a lower cost. Your
vendors don't have the paper they spec and you have to go searching for
a vendor that has it so I just toss the quote.
They need more educated buyers. That way they'll get a better deal. Not
just blind quoting and no chances for re-quoting.
I've been told we lost jobs over 10 dollars and to an out of state
vendor.
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Sometimes the specifications are specific in order to get the vendor
they want. A state organization can't put in vendor relationship as a
reason to award the bid, so they spec the job to bias the bid in favor
of the vendor they want.
I used to do it when I wanted a particular computer doodad.
The bid process for government purchases is a joke. It is manipulated
in favor of everyone but the taxpayer.
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Lee Blevins
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| Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:29 pm Post subject: Re: For printers in Ohio |
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Allen Wessels <awessels@EXPUNGEpacbell.net> wrote:
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In article <1hz8x90.a8uj0i1pvidlcN%leeb@digitalgraphics.net>,
leeb@digitalgraphics.net (Lee Blevins) wrote:
I don't even bother quoting on state work anymore here.
The biggest problem, and I do understand why they do it, is they are too
specific in their specifications.
They'll insist on a paper because that's the paper that was used before
even though you can give them a better paper at a lower cost. Your
vendors don't have the paper they spec and you have to go searching for
a vendor that has it so I just toss the quote.
They need more educated buyers. That way they'll get a better deal. Not
just blind quoting and no chances for re-quoting.
I've been told we lost jobs over 10 dollars and to an out of state
vendor.
Sometimes the specifications are specific in order to get the vendor
they want. A state organization can't put in vendor relationship as a
reason to award the bid, so they spec the job to bias the bid in favor
of the vendor they want.
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My point exactly. Once I was going to bid on reprinting the state
drivers handbook. As it turned out the printer (before digital) had the
film and claimed it was his. I wondered about the purchasing agent who
let that happen. Any new printers had to re-prep everything which
virutally assured the current printer of keeping the job.
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I used to do it when I wanted a particular computer doodad.
The bid process for government purchases is a joke. It is manipulated
in favor of everyone but the taxpayer.
- Allen
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Amen to that. |
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